Scholes and Butt talk about Manchester United: Why hire so many people from Manchester City? My DNA is gone

 11:54am, 18 October 2025

Manchester United legend Scholes and Nicky Butt recently appeared on the podcast The Good, The Bad & The Football and talked about various issues with their old club.

The two admitted that Manchester United had made some parallel purchases in the past few years, and what worried them most was that they felt that the club was losing its identity before their eyes. More specifically, they are concerned that United may be "Manchester-ified" after a number of personnel from Manchester City left Old Trafford.

Scholes said: "Director of football Wilcox, CEO Berrada, and some other people who have worked at Manchester City before, I don't think Manchester United should do this."

"Manchester City has been very successful in the past ten years, so we hope they can bring some successful experience, but this is not what a Manchester United person wants to see, this is not what we want to see, and it may not be what the fans want to see."

4} "Speaking of DNA, no one in the Manchester United club now knows what it means to be a Manchester United player. U18 coach Fletcher is the only one who understands what it means to be a Manchester United player. Listen, you don't always have to be the best player, but you have to have the guts to play for this club, right?"

Stephen Torpe worked in the Manchester City youth academy under Wilcox and later became Brentford's youth training director. Torpe becomes the latest former Manchester City employee to join United after Neil Cox, United's academy director, left to become Everton's new technical director.

Butt said: "This is unbelievable. Now every Manchester City employee has gone to Manchester United. Real Madrid will not poach Barcelona people like this, and vice versa."

"If you have a solid DNA, you should carefully select really good coaches, which Manchester United did with Kieran McKenna (now Ipswich coach). You see Tottenham has a bright spot, you invite him here and let him teach you things, but now except Fletcher, the club No one from a Manchester United background. "

Talking about the current situation of Manchester United's youth academy, Bart was even more dissatisfied: "I'm tired of hearing people from Manchester United's youth academy say, 'Winning is not important, experience is important.' Of course winning is important, because if you haven't won anything since you were 13 years old, how can you expect to win when you get to the first team? "

"You have to develop winners because if you don't you can't play for a big club like Manchester United. this is me The most important thing I've noticed in the academy over the years, I know it may sound like I'm saying this because I've been away, but that's not the case. The key is winning, and if winning isn't important then they are at the wrong club. "

Both Bart and Scholes believe that Manchester United made a huge mistake by selling McTominay to buy Ugarte. Bart said: "McTominay will go through fire and water for Manchester United. He knows the DNA of this club. I guess his salary It's 50% less than the Ugarte they bought, and Ugarte is nowhere near McTominay's level. "

"McTominay is not the team's top-paid player. He will not destroy the salary structure or the locker room. You should keep him at all costs. "

Scholes nodded in agreement: "Listen, I'm not saying that if he is in your midfield every week, you can win the Premier League championship, but he is the kind of player you always want to stay in the team. "